Well, time to conclude this crazy thread. I hedged my bet, first remembering that I really wanted to get some ladder stands (now in my aging years), and I might be able to get a couple for what I was eventually going to pay for the Sniper, better scope and arrows. The last thing I did before heading over there was to shoot my "preview" Excal 355-360. That thing just shoots really nice. Went over and there weren't many customers for a pre-Christmas sale time. Before I picked up a Sniper, I saw they had a Killer Instinct SWAT hanging there for $599 ($400 off). I had only seen pics of them, but have followed this design since "Oldflyer" posted his original pics on Crossbow Nation. It's a really cool, compact crossbow. Handled well too. Probably shouldn't have done that before picking up the Sniper. SWAT was just a bit heavy, and they could have made the front narrower, but that thing would be really nice for any crossbow hunting you'd ever want to do. Wasn't going to put out $600 for a bow that Cabelas was phasing out. Not sure if KI is going to keep making them or not. Moving on, I handled 3 Snipers, all adjusted differently. As I've always said, great bow for the money (especially now). Stared temptation in the eye, and walked out without one. For the time being, I just stick with "too many recurves." I will still need a Guardian, and have to pay for powdercoating on that blue Apex rail. That should keep me busy for a while when I'm not out freezing watching birds and squirrels in the late season. BTW, I was in school this morning for the club my wife and I run. The wife of the trophy whitetail team that I shoot 3d with in the summer showed me a pic of the field across the street from their house on the first day of gun season. 35 deer just laying in the field including a few very nice bucks. There are a few reasons why they consistently do well every deer season.